Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#101 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:44 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:27 pm
I believe the same as Phantom Thread
Is this confirmed? In the UK, it’s easier to do this, but when making a film in the US, you have to deal with the union rules regarding this.

Few other thoughts on the trailer.
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It looks gorgeous in the way Anderson sort of honed in that new, non-Steadycam style he’s adopted from The Master onward. A few dick jokes in the trailer, but the sort of emotion of teenage angst gives the impression there’s probably a hint of melancholy here (no surprise for Anderson). Bradley Cooper is screaming and breaking car windows in a gas station parking lot. Sean Penn seems to maybe be having some sort of relation with the young Haim girl judging by some of the body language they share. Tom Waits seems to be some sort of director. The big gag of the trailer is Cooper explaining that Barbara Streisand is his girlfriend and Cooper Hoffman can’t pronounce her name.


Admittedly, details about certain things are sort of hazy as this was the first trailer of the night and everyone decided to use the time this trailer was playing to find a seat and to stand right in front of me.

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#102 Post by beamish14 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:16 pm

Any word on this getting 70mm prints like his last 3 films? MGM did strike some for No Time to Die

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#103 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:30 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:44 pm
FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:27 pm
I believe the same as Phantom Thread
Is this confirmed?
It’s only confirmed as much as you want to trust IMDB which does not have a cinematographer listed. Only cam operator and assist
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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#104 Post by beamish14 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:07 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:44 pm
FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:27 pm
I believe the same as Phantom Thread
Is this confirmed? In the UK, it’s easier to do this, but when making a film in the US, you have to deal with the union rules regarding this.

The American Society of Cinematographers is really notorious for not taking kindly to directors who serve as their own DP's. Peter Hyams has served in both functions for all of his features. When he finally decided to get credit for his photography with 2010 in 1984, they turned down his application outright, and continued to do so every single time until he finally gave up many years later.

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#105 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:17 pm

2010 was actually the first film where Hyams got the DP credit, and that was the case for all of his subsequent work. You might be thinking of this interview where Hyams says the ASC turned down his application for membership. Robert Rodriguez is also credited for the cinematography on a number of unionized films. Steven Soderbergh is an odd case but might be relevant here: he adopted the "Peter Andrews" pseudonym for his work as DP not because of the ASC, but because of the Directors and Writers Guilds—he didn't want to be credited multiple times and the Guilds wouldn't let him put his cinematographer credit on the same card as his director credit, since the DGA requires the director credit to come first and the WGA requires the screenwriting credits to come second. That wouldn't be an issue for someone like Anderson who writes his own films (and has always had multiple credits anyway, with a separate card for producing).

All that said, my guess is he's going to do the same thing he did on Phantom Thread and have no cinematographer credit on the grounds of collaborative effort. If he's not allowed to do that on a U.S. production, I dunno, maybe a pseudonym.

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#106 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:57 pm

But clearly PT Anderson is a much higher profile than Peter Hyams. Even if ASC has issues with him I don't see how it will effect him or his productions in any way and why he would even care at this point

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#107 Post by The Narrator Returns » Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:54 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:44 pm
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It looks gorgeous in the way Anderson sort of honed in that new, non-Steadycam style he’s adopted from The Master onward. A few dick jokes in the trailer, but the sort of emotion of teenage angst gives the impression there’s probably a hint of melancholy here (no surprise for Anderson). Bradley Cooper is screaming and breaking car windows in a gas station parking lot. Sean Penn seems to maybe be having some sort of relation with the young Haim girl judging by some of the body language they share. Tom Waits seems to be some sort of director. The big gag of the trailer is Cooper explaining that Barbara Streisand is his girlfriend and Cooper Hoffman can’t pronounce her name.
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If Tom Waits is playing a director, it's likely the John Huston analogue who was part of the initial listing of parts when the film was announced. And I've read a rumor that Penn is indeed playing Alana Haim's father, and that Haim's character is a teenage/young-adult gossip columnist based on the real-life "Hollywood Kids".

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#108 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:59 pm

beamish14 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:16 pm
Any word on this getting 70mm prints like his last 3 films? MGM did strike some for No Time to Die
I wouldn’t be surprised. I was told from someone in the know that on top of dual 35mm projection at the Vista (Tarantino’s new theater), they’re also installing 70mm. I wonder if they’re seperate or dual 35/70 projectors which are more costly but save space. Anyway, it makes sense at the Vista as it’s sort of the last regularly functioning large single-screen in the city. I’m always amused to think it was a porno theater in the 70s (gay and straight).

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#109 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:13 pm

More theatres are getting the trailer and announcing it - the Coolidge Corner theatre in Brookline, MA just announced they have a 35mm print and will be featuring it before all their screenings for the remainder of Sept.

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#110 Post by Never Cursed » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:22 pm

Cmon AFI Silver, gimme a reason to hike all the way up there...

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#111 Post by yoloswegmaster » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:28 pm

Coolidge is only playing the trailer before any of this month's 35mm screenings. This has also been officially rated R for language, sexual material, and some drug use.

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#112 Post by Never Cursed » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:20 pm

Courtesy of the Coolidge

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#113 Post by yoloswegmaster » Mon Sep 20, 2021 10:47 am

Someone recorded the trailer on their phone and it has made its way online. I'm not sure what the rules are against posting leaked trailers, so I won't post it here.

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#114 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:10 am

Wow, that trailer exceeded my already-souring expectations. I’m getting some strong 20th Century Women vibes in regards to the comic-pathos hybrid approach to youthful milestones in the 70s, albeit in a different milieu (also Jeremy, for those who have seen the recent Fun City blu)

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#115 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:14 am

Per the trailer, at least one of the other Haims are in it, Sean Penn is in it as Alana's father, and Tom Waits is doing a Daniel Plainview-level Huston impression

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#116 Post by swo17 » Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:30 am

therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:10 am
Wow, that trailer exceeded my already-souring expectations.
Soaring?

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#117 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:48 pm

swo17 wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:30 am
therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:10 am
Wow, that trailer exceeded my already-souring expectations.
Soaring?
Yeah, that's what I get for not proofreading autocorrect/writing a post while on the exercise bike

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#118 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:16 pm

Happened to see this again on Saturday during a screening of Singin' in the Rain this Saturday at the New Beverly. I was amused to see that everyone applauded after the trailer as though a chunk of the audience paid to see this trailer.
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If Tom Waits is the John Huston stand-in, it makes sense. He sounds sloshed as he's telling multiple cameras to turn on and seems to literally be throwing alcohol around.


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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#120 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:48 am

No need to say much about what will be the most discussed film among cinephiles of this year, but it looks fantastic and anyone taking this as an opportunity to speculate about Anderson losing his fastball should look back at literally everything else he's ever written and directed. I'll be there day one. And if you spend all your idle time complaining about IP and franchises and superhero pictures: hey... an opportunity to support original stories at the movie theater, right here!

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#121 Post by yoloswegmaster » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:49 pm

Jonny Greenwood tweeted (and then deleted) the following:
Oh it’s a lovely film. Only wrote a couple of cues for it - the score is all 70’s source cues (and all the better for that) - you’re all in for a giant PTA-shaped treat…

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#122 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:33 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:48 am
hey... an opportunity to support original stories at the movie theater, right here!
I can count on one hand the films I look forward to every year. This is most definitely one.

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#123 Post by domino harvey » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:36 pm

Am I missing someone in this thread saying they aren’t looking forward to it?

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#124 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:06 pm

Certain other corners of the internet (some elements of Film Twitter at least) are a bit grumpy about how the trailer looks for generally stupid reasons (postulating that Cooper Hoffman got his part due to nepotism, saying it looks too derivative or mainstream, complaining about Anderson's use of Life On Mars as a "too obvious" trailer song...)

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Re: Licorice Pizza (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2021)

#125 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:12 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:36 pm
Am I missing someone in this thread saying they aren’t looking forward to it?
I think some people aren't looking forward to seeing a movie titled Licorice Pizza, but that's about it

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