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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1301 Post by furbicide » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:12 am

Confirmed via Potemkine rep: no English subtitles on the Up, Down, Fragile disc. :(

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1302 Post by domino harvey » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:15 am

These will undoubtedly be announced by Cohen soon, no need to shed those tears!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1303 Post by bearcuborg » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:56 am

That’s good news, I guess I can try to get something for my VHS copy.

Still, L’amour Fou, my favorite, is unavailable.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1304 Post by Michael Kerpan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:24 am

I heard about that subbed VHS version of Up Down Fragile -- but it was always too expensive to buy (back in that era).

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1305 Post by the__projectionist » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:28 am

bearcuborg wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:56 am
That’s good news, I guess I can try to get something for my VHS copy.

Still, L’amour Fou, my favorite, is unavailable.
According to Veronique Rivette (french only), L'amour Fou and Va Savoir will be restored soon. And there'll be complete retrospective at Cinémathèque Française next January.

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#1306 Post by Michael Kerpan » Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:59 am

I wonder just how many Rivette films could be considered, at least in considerable part, as involving "l'amour fou"? ;-)

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1307 Post by furbicide » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:17 am

the__projectionist wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:28 am
bearcuborg wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:56 am
That’s good news, I guess I can try to get something for my VHS copy.

Still, L’amour Fou, my favorite, is unavailable.
According to Veronique Rivette (french only), L'amour Fou and Va Savoir will be restored soon. And there'll be complete retrospective at Cinémathèque Française next January.
That’s great news, thanks for passing it on!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1308 Post by Noiretirc » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:33 pm

Does this "restoration" mean 220mins of Va Savoir?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1309 Post by soundchaser » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:41 pm

I was wondering the same thing. Does anyone know if the Va Savoir+ cut even exists anymore? If it only played at one theater in Paris, I wouldn't be surprised to find the print(s) have been lost to time.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1310 Post by dave1 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:27 am

RE: Va savoir +
It does exist and it's available to screen. We showed it at the Filmoteca de Catalunya as part of this cycle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUMrY2MAKm8

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#1311 Post by furbicide » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:07 pm

Great to know, Dave, thanks. Hopefully it'll show up as a result of these restoration efforts!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1312 Post by furbicide » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am

Update from Potemkine rep: Up/Down/Fragile and Secret Defense WILL have English subs. :)

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1313 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:18 am

furbicide wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
Update from Potemkine rep: Up/Down/Fragile and Secret Defense WILL have English subs. :)
Excellent news! Is there an easier way to purchase this from the states outside of amazon.fr (which isn't even giving me an option for preorder)? Potemkine's site isn't particularly helpful either, listing the film as DVD only, plus I'm not even sure if they ship here..

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#1314 Post by Michael Kerpan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:43 am

Potemkine used to ship to the USA -- and I got a number of releases from them. I haven't ordered from them for a few years however.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1315 Post by domino harvey » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:45 am

I don't see any reason to spend xtra $$$ on importing the French releases if you can wait a bit longer for the stateside Cohen releases, especially since there will likely be supplemental material on the Cohen discs

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1316 Post by soundchaser » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:24 am

Potemkine's international shipping got prohibitively expensive in the last year - they want 50 euros to ship those two Blu-Rays. I'm waiting until Amazon.fr has them available for order, probably just after they're released.

EDIT: FNAC has both up for pre-order - €47.17 with shipping. Not great, but not terrible.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1317 Post by Michael Kerpan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:35 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:45 am
I don't see any reason to spend xtra $$$ on importing the French releases if you can wait a bit longer for the stateside Cohen releases, especially since there will likely be supplemental material on the Cohen discs
Are the Cohen releases a sure thing?

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#1318 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:38 pm

yes, soundchaser got confirmation posted upthread

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#1319 Post by domino harvey » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:22 pm

I think it’s actually posted in the Cohen thread, but yes, he got direct confirmation

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1320 Post by Michael Kerpan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:42 pm

Great news!

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1321 Post by furbicide » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:36 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:18 am
furbicide wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:31 am
Update from Potemkine rep: Up/Down/Fragile and Secret Defense WILL have English subs. :)
Excellent news! Is there an easier way to purchase this from the states outside of amazon.fr (which isn't even giving me an option for preorder)? Potemkine's site isn't particularly helpful either, listing the film as DVD only, plus I'm not even sure if they ship here..
They’re not due out until the 15th of June, I believe, so perhaps there’ll be more preorder options closer to the date – I had no luck finding them on the Potemkine site either, only fnac.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1322 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:45 pm

Cool, thanks all. I just rewatched Up, Down, Fragile a few nights ago, and have my copy of Secret Defense cued up in close proximity for a revisit soon, so I'll probably wait for the Cohen releases after all, barring some announcement of exceptional extras to these releases

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1323 Post by Noiretirc » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:17 pm

Michael Kerpan wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:47 am
Why do I love PdN so much? One, the interplay between mother and daughter playing not-quite-compatible, chance-met, temporary comrades. Two, the exploration of out-of-the-way (now probably mostly vanished forever) corners of Paris. Three, the pacing. Four, everything else. I first saw this (and long knew it) only in unsubbed form -- and even bought a multi-standard VHS player to play this and a few other otherwise-unfindable, but must-see (for me) films. It also helped that I had a crush on Bulle Ogier ever since I saw her in Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (when this first came to the theaters in the US).
I just watched this for the very first time, and I am with you on your reasons for loving it.

What a horrible shame that Pascale Ogier died so young.

I was quite shocked when "dead" Marie, almost out of the sweeping view, got up! There must be some discussion somewhere in these forums (or this thread?) about the disorienting ending of this film. Part of me thought "Oh, right: Role-playing." Part of me feels that Rivette employs MacGuffins and turns them up-side-down and in-side-out. This was a strange and lovely viewing experience for me.

Edit: Of course, the Le Pont du Nord thread.

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#1324 Post by Michael Kerpan » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:16 pm

Noiretc --

So glad you finally got to see this. I've never understood why this seems to be considered a "lesser" Rivette film. It always seemed so "magical" to me.

I've watched this many times -- but honestly have never noticed Marie getting up at the end.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1325 Post by Noiretirc » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:59 pm

Oh shit...did I imagine this?

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