Criterion and StudioCanal

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1276 Post by movielocke » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:28 pm

Thanks, I updated the list with that.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1277 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:04 pm

I recall KL Insider saying that the rights to the 2 Cocteau films belonged to Janus in perpetuity. I think you can also add Richard Lester's 'The Three Muskateers' and 'The Four Muskateers' to the list.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1278 Post by Close The Door, Raymond » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 pm

The Three Musketeers / The Four Musketeers UK Blu-ray released by Optimum in region-free format. I was planning to get it, but not sure now if there is a chance that Criterion might do one.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1279 Post by barryconvex » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:16 am

All I really want out of life is a CC upgrade of Le Trou. I'll buy every criterion employee a soda (of their choice) when that happens.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1280 Post by Drucker » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:38 pm

barryconvex wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:16 am
All I really want out of life is a CC upgrade of Le Trou. I'll buy every criterion employee a soda (of their choice) when that happens.
I love having very attainable life goals. When I was a kid I used to say that I'd give my right arm for an original press of the first Modern Lovers album and then wound up finding one for...$25.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1281 Post by JakeStewart » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:41 pm

barryconvex wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:16 am
All I really want out of life is a CC upgrade of Le Trou. I'll buy every criterion employee a soda (of their choice) when that happens.
The Studiocanal blu-ray is from a 4K restoration and has more extras than the Criterion DVD.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1282 Post by barryconvex » Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:53 am

Drucker wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:38 pm
barryconvex wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:16 am
All I really want out of life is a CC upgrade of Le Trou. I'll buy every criterion employee a soda (of their choice) when that happens.
...I'd give my right arm for an original press of the first Modern Lovers album and then wound up finding one for...$25.
I'll trade you my Le Trou dvd for it. I'll throw in an arm of your choosing if you include the Japanese Road Runner / Pablo Picasso promo 45.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1283 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:35 pm

KL Insider admits that they don't really know if Criterion got back 'Ran' and then says this:
KL Insider wrote:The two films are in different leagues sales wise, LG may let go of RAN and could care less, but I would be surprised if they let go of THE THIRD MAN.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1284 Post by captveg » Tue May 19, 2020 2:36 am

A blu-ray.com forum member GetHarryPalmer stated tonight that these are the SC titles Criterion acquired (mostly re-acquired) in the latest deal:

The Blood of a Poet
Le Cercle Rouge
Le Corbeau
Coup De Torchon
The Crime of Monsieur Lange
Diary of a Country Priest
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Fallen idol
Forbidden Games
The Four Musketeers
Gervais
Le Jour Se Lève
Nights of Cabiria
The Phantom of Liberty
Peeping Tom
Pierrot Le Fou
The Servant
The Small Black Room
The Tales of Hoffman
The Testament of Orpheus
That Obscure Object of Desire
The Three Musketeers
The Trial
Le Trou
The White Sheik


And of course the already released Army of Shadows

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1285 Post by domino harvey » Tue May 19, 2020 2:49 am

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1286 Post by captveg » Tue May 19, 2020 2:57 am

He was going by memory, so he may have neglected some. I was bummed Last Holiday wasn't listed, but that may be with Film Movement.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1287 Post by captveg » Tue May 19, 2020 3:24 am

If this list is accurate, here are the OOP SC titles unaccounted for by any label:

El amor brujo
Blood Wedding
Carmen
Diary of a Chambermaid
Last Holiday
Mafioso
Mayerling
Murderous Maids
The Proud Valley
Variety Lights - One would think Criterion with the Fellini box set on the horizon
A Woman is a Woman

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1288 Post by Luke M » Tue May 19, 2020 8:33 am

Is Pandora's Box not a SC title?

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1289 Post by tenia » Tue May 19, 2020 12:09 pm

The DVD set has a copyright from Praesens-Film AG Zurich and no mention of Studio Canal.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1290 Post by Luke M » Tue May 19, 2020 1:42 pm

Thanks. I sold my DVD copy in anticipation of a blu-ray release, that was about 3 years ago now, silly me.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1291 Post by Roscoe » Tue May 19, 2020 2:24 pm

It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1292 Post by Finch » Tue May 19, 2020 3:39 pm

Glad to see Peeping Tom on that (hopefully accurate) list. That film needs to be done right in HD.

Fingers crossed they were also able to get RAN once more (assuming Palmer forgot some titles). edit: never mind, RAN was released through Lionsgate in the US so probably no.
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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1293 Post by therewillbeblus » Tue May 19, 2020 3:56 pm

Three cheers for Diary of a Country Priest, though I've been waiting for a decent restoration of The Trial on a shortlist of dream releases since I started collecting physical media, so that's the gold for me.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1294 Post by jwd5275 » Tue May 19, 2020 3:59 pm

Roscoe wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 2:24 pm
It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.
Besides a theatrical page on the Kino site, what proof do you have for this? M was toured theatrically by Kino a few years ago and it never meant Janus / Criterion lost rights.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1295 Post by HernandoBiggies » Tue May 19, 2020 4:50 pm

jwd5275 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 3:59 pm
Roscoe wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 2:24 pm
It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.
Besides a theatrical page on the Kino site, what proof do you have for this? M was toured theatrically by Kino a few years ago and it never meant Janus / Criterion lost rights.
It is also OOP on the Criterion site.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1296 Post by captveg » Tue May 19, 2020 5:15 pm

Finch wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 3:39 pm
Fingers crossed they were also able to get RAN once more (assuming Palmer forgot some titles). edit: never mind, RAN was released through Lionsgate in the US so probably no.
You'd think that, but That Obscure Object of Desire was released by Lionsgate yet is on that list, so who knows.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1297 Post by jwd5275 » Tue May 19, 2020 5:19 pm

HernandoBiggies wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 4:50 pm
jwd5275 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 3:59 pm
Roscoe wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 2:24 pm
It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.
Besides a theatrical page on the Kino site, what proof do you have for this? M was toured theatrically by Kino a few years ago and it never meant Janus / Criterion lost rights.
It is also OOP on the Criterion site.
So are all the Antoine Doinel films. Are we assuming someone else has the rights to them?

All four of Criterion's Pabst films are being offered theatrically by Kino, three of which Janus is still offering theatrically on it's website (Pandora's Box has never been on the Janus site). Until we hear something different, I would take the Kino theatrical listing and the oop status of Pandora's Box as mere coincidences.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1298 Post by hearthesilence » Thu May 21, 2020 1:28 am

captveg wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 2:36 am
A blu-ray.com forum member GetHarryPalmer stated tonight that these are the SC titles Criterion acquired (mostly re-acquired) in the latest deal:
The Crime of Monsieur Lange - This never got a good home video release in the U.S., and normally I'd be ecstatic because it is one of Jean Renoir's masterpieces. However, as discussed earlier, the most recent restoration doesn't look so hot, at least when it was shown in theaters, and I'm guessing that's what's going to be on the BD.

Diary of a Country Priest - Been expecting this for a long time now. It would've been great to re-issue it with First Reformed in theaters, but that moment has long passed.

The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - The old StudioCanal BD (based off on an HD transfer from over a decade ago) is all right, but it wouldn't be difficult to do something better.

The Fallen idol - The StudioCanal UK BD looks great, and it came out five years ago - it's about time they put this out in the States.

Nights of Cabiria - This doesn't sound like the disastrous transfer I was fearing, which is great news.

Peeping Tom - Long overdue, the Film Foundation restored it a long time ago, but StudioCanal put out an atrocious release that looked like Vaseline from the excessive grain reduction. That was a decade ago though.

The Tales of Hoffman - The StudioCanal UK BD again looks great, yet another Film Foundation restoration, and once again, it's about time they put this out in the States.

That Obscure Object of Desire - The StudioCanal BD is mediocre. Not terrible, but the transfer looks its age and you can see something off with the grain reduction. A new transfer should easily look better.

Other favorites made it on that list, which I'm very thankful for, so there's a LOT to look forward to!

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1299 Post by ftsoh » Thu May 21, 2020 10:12 am

Kind of bumped that Grand Illusion is not on the list.

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Re: Criterion and StudioCanal

#1300 Post by dwk » Thu May 21, 2020 11:13 am

GetHarryPalmer later posted
My list is not a complete list, just what I'm pretty sure are with them.

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