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I seem to recall the Kino release of Fantômas (or was it Les Vampires) having re-done English intertitles, but I think folks are right that this would presume an investment of time and money that a release like this probably doesn't warrant economically. (Which is fine w/ me because I prefer to read the original French titles, or whatever recreations Gaumont put together.)
I'm just very happy they are releasing this at all. Tih Minh was a real holy grail for folks once upon a time, like other storied films like Out One, and it's strange that it's soon at anyone's fingertips. TBH having watched a few episodes I suspect this serial is a cut below the ones that preceded it, but that's still pretty high praise.
I'm just very happy they are releasing this at all. Tih Minh was a real holy grail for folks once upon a time, like other storied films like Out One, and it's strange that it's soon at anyone's fingertips. TBH having watched a few episodes I suspect this serial is a cut below the ones that preceded it, but that's still pretty high praise.
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Kino’s BD of Les Vampires featured new English intertitles as they relied on an old master for the film (but the Gaumont set is the one to get for this title anyway to get the newer resto).
Kino’s Fantomas uses French intertitles as it comes from that same Gaumont restoration.
So I highly doubt Kino will go to the bother of making English intertitles for an obscure 7 hour silent when they didn’t when they used Gaumont’s resto for Fantomas.
If they throw in a few more Feuillade shorts I’ll happily double dip!
Kino’s Fantomas uses French intertitles as it comes from that same Gaumont restoration.
So I highly doubt Kino will go to the bother of making English intertitles for an obscure 7 hour silent when they didn’t when they used Gaumont’s resto for Fantomas.
If they throw in a few more Feuillade shorts I’ll happily double dip!
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Now that it’s nominated for an Oscar, Four Daughters is getting a Blu-ray in April (previously announced and released as DVD only). Can someone (re)nominate En liberté! for something now?!
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with a full length Daniel Bird commentary, terrific!!!JSC wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:07 pmNostalghia
4k/blu-ray combo coming April 23rd.
https://kinolorber.com/product/nostalghia-4kuhd
EDIT: can't help but notice the commentary isn't labeled as "new", but I don't see it on the previous Kino or AE releases. anyone know if it appeared elsewhere? Maltic?
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Bird is up to the task - his contributions to the UK labels have been wonderful. it'll be nice to hear a good commentary for a Tarkovsky film, something I felt Mirror could've really used (and was surprised Bird didn't contribute one). the original CC tracks vary - Rublev is kinda poor but I like the Solaris one, aside from their extremely unnecessary trashing of the Tokyo sequence
anyway, this is the only Tarkovsky I've never watched, been saving it for the right moment. I'll consider this it, but I do hope I get the chance to see it in theaters somehow
anyway, this is the only Tarkovsky I've never watched, been saving it for the right moment. I'll consider this it, but I do hope I get the chance to see it in theaters somehow
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Yeah, I still feel kinda lost when it comes to Mirror. CC should've given it the deluxe CliffsNotes treatment, as with Rayns and Steffen on The Color of Pomegranates. (Of course I could just open my copy of A Visual Fugue.)
I notice Graham Petrie died recently (RIP). A shame he didn't do more commentaries. I was reminded, when we talked about US directors in Europe in the 1960s recently, in the book thread, of his "Hollywood Destinies", about Euro directors in Hollywood in the 1920s. Good stuff. Of course, Tarkovsky had made a serious film industry switch of his own, with Nostalghia.
I notice Graham Petrie died recently (RIP). A shame he didn't do more commentaries. I was reminded, when we talked about US directors in Europe in the 1960s recently, in the book thread, of his "Hollywood Destinies", about Euro directors in Hollywood in the 1920s. Good stuff. Of course, Tarkovsky had made a serious film industry switch of his own, with Nostalghia.
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I haven't listened to the commentary yet, but I thought this film was terrific and seems to be quite overlooked in Ophuls' filmography. The genius of the film is in not exaggerating the melodrama. Indeed, there are no real "villains" in the film, and even the "bad" guys seem realistic and not particularly malicious, just pragmatic. But that doesn't matter when you are suicidally depressed, and it makes the inevitable tragic ending feel earned in a way this kind of thing rarely does. Highly recommended!Calvin wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 3:07 pmI don't remember this ever being announced as forthcoming but Kino quietly put out Ophuls' Sans Lendemain on Blu-Ray with an Adrian Martin commentary
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Just wanted to remind everyone that Kino’s Nostalghia UHD is currently $14.99 on Amazon. Demand is huge at the price, insanely even skyrocketing the UHD to Amazon’s number one spot. This price is now online for a few days already, so hardly a mistake. Should this be the intention, then it paid off big time for more Tarkovsky in 4K and international, non Hollywood-films as well. https://www.amazon.com/Nostalghia-4KUHD ... B0CV62HQ24dwk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:47 pmKino Insider confirms they will be releasing Tarkovsky's Nostalghia on UHD
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Coming April 23rd on 4KUHD and Blu-ray!
https://kinolorber.com/product/nostalghia-4kuhd
NOSTALGHIA (1983)
Directed by Andrei Tarkovsky
Starring Oleg Yankovsky, Erland Josephson, Domiziana Giordano
DISC 1 (4KUHD):
*New UHD SDR master by the Centro Sperimentale di Cinematografia - Cineteca Nazionale - from a 4K scan of the original film negative
*Audio commentary by film historian Daniel Bird
*Triple-layered UHD100 Disc
*Optional English subtitles
DISC 2 (Blu-ray)
*New HD master from a 4K scan of the original film negative
*Audio commentary by film historian Daniel Bird
*Interview with Director of Photography Giuseppe Lanci
*Voyage in Time (1983 behind-the-scenes documentary)
*Re-Release Trailer
*Dual-Layered BD50 Disc
*Optional English subtitles
Color 126 minutes 1.66:1 Not Rated
Andrei Tarkovsky explained that in Russian the word “nostalghia” conveys “the love for your homeland and the melancholy that arises from being far away.” This debilitating form of homesickness is embodied in the film by Andrei (Oleg Yankovsky, The Mirror), a Russian intellectual doing research in Italy. He becomes obsessed with the Botticelli-like beauty of his translator Eugenia (Domiziana Giordano), as well as with the apocalyptic ramblings of a self-destructive wanderer named Domenico (Erland Josephson, The Sacrifice). Written with frequent Michelangelo Antonioni collaborator Tonino Guerra (L’Avventura) and newly restored in 4K from the original camera negative, Nostalghia is a mystical and mysterious collision of East and West, shot with the tactile beauty that only Tarkovsky can provide. As J. Hoberman wrote, “Nostalghia is not so much a movie as a place to inhabit for two hours.”
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Vitagraph Comedies details:
SpoilerShow
DISC ONE
Vitagraph Comedies, Part One (2024, 13 min.) Video introduction featuring interviews with Rob Farr, Lynanne Schweighofer, Rob Stone, and George Willeman.
The Disintegrated Convict (1907, 6 min.) Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
The Boy, the Bust, and the Bath (1907, 6 min.) Featuring Florence Lawrence. Music by Qingye Wu.
Get Me a Step-Ladder (1908, 3 min.) Music by Dana Reason.
The New Stenographer (1911, 12 min.) Featuring Maurice Costello, Florence Lawrence. Music by Ben Model.
The Lovesick Maidens of Cuddleton (1912, 12 min.) Featuring Earle Williams, Edith Storey, John Bunny. Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
A Regiment of Two (1913, 28 min.) Featuring Sidney Drew. Music by Chris Rorrer and Daniel Mandrychenko.
Jane’s Bashful Hero (1916, 15 min.) Featuring Edith Storey. Music by Teil Buck.
The Egyptian Mummy (1913, 15 min.) Featuring Lee Beggs, Constance Talmadge, Billy Quirk. Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
Sweeney’s Christmas Bird (1914, 14 min.) Featuring Hughie Mack, Flora Finch. Music by Liz Magnes.
A Case of Eugenics (1915, 11 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Esin Aydingoz.
Auntie’s Portrait (1915, 13 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Chris Lock.
Jane Was Worth It (1915, 28 min.) Featuring Edith Storey. Music by Ben Model.
Mr. Jack Trifles (1916, 14 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Don Ross.
Captain Jinks’ Baby (1917, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Ivanna Cuesta Gonzalez.
Captain Jinks’ Cure (1917, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Annette Johnson.
Damsels and Dandies (1919, 15 min.) Featuring Earl Montgomery and Joe Rock. Music by Ben Model.
DISC TWO
Vitagraph Comedies, Part Two (2024, 7 min.) Video introduction featuring Rob Farr, Lynanne Schweighofer, Rob Stone, and George Willeman.
The Flat Dwellers: Or, The House of Too Much Trouble (1907, 6 min.) Music by Shane Prediville.
The Haunted Rocker (1912, 8 min.) Featuring George Ober, Clara Kimball Young. Music by Peter Valsamis.
Kitty and the Cowboys (1911, 11 min.) Featuring John Bunny. Music by Ben Model.
In the Clutches of a Vapor Bath (1911, 7 min.) Featuring John Bunny. Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
The Deceivers (1915, 13 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Liz Magnes.
His Wife Knew About It (1916, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Linda Chase.
A Horseshoe for Luck (1914, 13 min.) Featuring Sidney Drew. Music by Don Ross.
The Professional Scapegoat (1914, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Violin Noir.
Beautiful Thoughts (1915, 11 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Dana Reason.
Boobley’s Baby (1915, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Renée T. Coulombe.
A Safe Investment (1915, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Ben Model.
A Telegraphic Tangle (1916, 13 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Violin Noir.
Bullies and Bullets (1917, 13 min.) Featuring Hughie Mack, Patsy De Forest. Music by Dana Reason.
Captain Jinks’ Evolution (1916, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Caterina Maddalena Barbieri.
Captain Jinks, the Cobbler (1916, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Dylan Talisien.
A Little Ouija Work (1918, 13 min.) Featuring Edward Earle, Agnes Ayres. Music by Ben Model.
Mr. Jack Ducks the Alimony (1916, 13 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Violin Noir.
Mr. Jack, the Hash Magnate (1916, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Chris Rorrer and Daniel Mandrychenko.
DISC THREE
Vitagraph Comedies, Part Three (2024, 4 min.) Video introduction featuring Rob Farr, Lynanne Schweighofer, Rob Stone, and George Willeman.
Hindoos and Hazards (1918, 10 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Camila Cortina Bello.
The Grocery Clerk (1919, 27 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by José María Serralde Ruiz.
The Head Waiter (1919, 19 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Musi by Gonca Feride Varol.
School Days (1920, 25 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Violin Noir.
The Bell Hop (1921, 29 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Peter Valsamis.
The Sawmill (1922, 26 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Karen Majewicz.
Vitagraph Comedies, Part One (2024, 13 min.) Video introduction featuring interviews with Rob Farr, Lynanne Schweighofer, Rob Stone, and George Willeman.
The Disintegrated Convict (1907, 6 min.) Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
The Boy, the Bust, and the Bath (1907, 6 min.) Featuring Florence Lawrence. Music by Qingye Wu.
Get Me a Step-Ladder (1908, 3 min.) Music by Dana Reason.
The New Stenographer (1911, 12 min.) Featuring Maurice Costello, Florence Lawrence. Music by Ben Model.
The Lovesick Maidens of Cuddleton (1912, 12 min.) Featuring Earle Williams, Edith Storey, John Bunny. Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
A Regiment of Two (1913, 28 min.) Featuring Sidney Drew. Music by Chris Rorrer and Daniel Mandrychenko.
Jane’s Bashful Hero (1916, 15 min.) Featuring Edith Storey. Music by Teil Buck.
The Egyptian Mummy (1913, 15 min.) Featuring Lee Beggs, Constance Talmadge, Billy Quirk. Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
Sweeney’s Christmas Bird (1914, 14 min.) Featuring Hughie Mack, Flora Finch. Music by Liz Magnes.
A Case of Eugenics (1915, 11 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Esin Aydingoz.
Auntie’s Portrait (1915, 13 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Chris Lock.
Jane Was Worth It (1915, 28 min.) Featuring Edith Storey. Music by Ben Model.
Mr. Jack Trifles (1916, 14 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Don Ross.
Captain Jinks’ Baby (1917, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Ivanna Cuesta Gonzalez.
Captain Jinks’ Cure (1917, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Annette Johnson.
Damsels and Dandies (1919, 15 min.) Featuring Earl Montgomery and Joe Rock. Music by Ben Model.
DISC TWO
Vitagraph Comedies, Part Two (2024, 7 min.) Video introduction featuring Rob Farr, Lynanne Schweighofer, Rob Stone, and George Willeman.
The Flat Dwellers: Or, The House of Too Much Trouble (1907, 6 min.) Music by Shane Prediville.
The Haunted Rocker (1912, 8 min.) Featuring George Ober, Clara Kimball Young. Music by Peter Valsamis.
Kitty and the Cowboys (1911, 11 min.) Featuring John Bunny. Music by Ben Model.
In the Clutches of a Vapor Bath (1911, 7 min.) Featuring John Bunny. Music by Andrew Earle Simpson.
The Deceivers (1915, 13 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Liz Magnes.
His Wife Knew About It (1916, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Linda Chase.
A Horseshoe for Luck (1914, 13 min.) Featuring Sidney Drew. Music by Don Ross.
The Professional Scapegoat (1914, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Violin Noir.
Beautiful Thoughts (1915, 11 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Dana Reason.
Boobley’s Baby (1915, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Renée T. Coulombe.
A Safe Investment (1915, 14 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Ben Model.
A Telegraphic Tangle (1916, 13 min.) Featuring Mr. and Mrs. Sidney Drew. Music by Violin Noir.
Bullies and Bullets (1917, 13 min.) Featuring Hughie Mack, Patsy De Forest. Music by Dana Reason.
Captain Jinks’ Evolution (1916, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Caterina Maddalena Barbieri.
Captain Jinks, the Cobbler (1916, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Dylan Talisien.
A Little Ouija Work (1918, 13 min.) Featuring Edward Earle, Agnes Ayres. Music by Ben Model.
Mr. Jack Ducks the Alimony (1916, 13 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Violin Noir.
Mr. Jack, the Hash Magnate (1916, 12 min.) Featuring Frank Daniels. Music by Chris Rorrer and Daniel Mandrychenko.
DISC THREE
Vitagraph Comedies, Part Three (2024, 4 min.) Video introduction featuring Rob Farr, Lynanne Schweighofer, Rob Stone, and George Willeman.
Hindoos and Hazards (1918, 10 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Camila Cortina Bello.
The Grocery Clerk (1919, 27 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by José María Serralde Ruiz.
The Head Waiter (1919, 19 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Musi by Gonca Feride Varol.
School Days (1920, 25 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Violin Noir.
The Bell Hop (1921, 29 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Peter Valsamis.
The Sawmill (1922, 26 min.) Featuring Larry Semon. Music by Karen Majewicz.
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William Klein’s the French is coming and is “presented by Wes Anderson”
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Wow -- not for the first time I've wondered what's going on. I saw the recent restoration of NOSTALGHIA at FIlm Forum, and I didn't sit there thinking "Damn that's GREEN!" as I did looking at the screen caps on Beaver. Is it some weird alchemy that happens in the move from restoration to disc?
I mean. Damn, that's just GREEN.
I mean. Damn, that's just GREEN.
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Any word on Nostalghia, besides the green?
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I received the disc, and I greatly appreciate that the film is available in 4K, in a new restoration. I wish it were HDR, but it looks fine to me in SDR, with lots of detail in the image. I haven't seen a print in many years, but it appears that Giuseppe Lanci carefully tried to convey the film's desaturated color scheme, including the black-and-white footage printed on color stock or rendered in sepia. From what I can tell, the abundant greenish elements are a deliberate part of the film's lighting and production design. It's part of a deliberate, controlled color scheme that emphasizes greens and browns--including the green and brown glass bottles. There are scenes with the bluish-green lighting (moonlight?), others that mix greenish and normal lighting, and others that have more of a normal white color balance. And there is of course the steam bath, the patina on the equestrian statue and some of the old walls, various costume choices, etc. I'd like to see this projected on a DCP someday.
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Re: Kino
Good to hear, thanks.
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The 4K looks good, mainly, except for the really bizarrely abundant teal. About 17 minutes in, Andrei's cigarette smoke is straight up blue -- it just looks bizarre, as in "what the fuck is in that cigarette?" Similarly, the light in the bathroom a few moments later has a good deal of teal in it. I compared the same moments in the old Blu-Ray, and there's none of that. Other scenes looked fine in 4k, as far as I could make out, I haven't done a full re-watch.
I saw this restoration at Film Forum, and cannot say that I remember this much blue going on. I can't imagine I'd have not spotted this, especially the cigarette smoke. It is really badly noticeable. Do I need to reconfigure the color settings on my TV? But it looks fine on the old Blu-Ray. Oh for fuck's sake.
I'll be holding on to the old Blu-Ray.
I saw this restoration at Film Forum, and cannot say that I remember this much blue going on. I can't imagine I'd have not spotted this, especially the cigarette smoke. It is really badly noticeable. Do I need to reconfigure the color settings on my TV? But it looks fine on the old Blu-Ray. Oh for fuck's sake.
I'll be holding on to the old Blu-Ray.
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Re: Kino
Resnais' Je t'aime, je t'aime has been OOP for a couple years and going for hundreds of dollars on the secondhand market, but I noticed the other day that you can still rent it direct from Kino, so they must still have some kind of rights... did they only lose physical rights but not streaming/rental rights? With all the crap they keep in print, I can't imagine why they wouldn't just repress this Blu otherwise
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Crazy. For a pretty long time, that title was marked down to $8 or $10 in most places. I always wondered if sales for it took a hit because of the controversial blue-tinted color, which looks nothing like any of the film prints I've seen (not even the newest ones struck by the Film Desk). With that in mind, I wonder if the Film Desk actually has the rights and they're licensing it theatrically to Kino Lorber?domino harvey wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 2:37 pmResnais' Je t'aime, je t'aime has been OOP for a couple years and going for hundreds of dollars on the secondhand market, but I noticed the other day that you can still rent it direct from Kino, so they must still have some kind of rights... did they only lose physical rights but not streaming/rental rights? With all the crap they keep in print, I can't imagine why they wouldn't just repress this Blu otherwise