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Re: therewillbeblus presents: a Member of the Year vote.

#1301 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:37 pm

If enough people are going to participate in an incremental discussion, the project will definitely benefit from everyone staying in step with each other. The progression of this character study is special because it feeds the development through relationships with many worldly and mystical forces so each episode complexly shifts one’s understanding enough so that I could see one person skipping ahead and having a completely opposing perspective to the person one behind/on task. At least that was my experience watching this the first time (and a main reason I consider it such a perfect work as intelligent and spiritual). I agree that watching it in one’s own preferred way is usually ideal (and mine would be 1-2 sittings) but I’d be interested to see what would happen if people contributed more collaboratively with equal information like a book club, and I’d be up to follow along one episode at a time.

Regardless of what wins, this should happen.

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Re: therewillbeblus presents: a Member of the Year vote.

#1302 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:59 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:37 pm
If enough people are going to participate in an incremental discussion, the project will definitely benefit from everyone staying in step with each other. The progression of this character study is special because it feeds the development through relationships with many worldly and mystical forces so each episode complexly shifts one’s understanding enough so that I could see one person skipping ahead and having a completely opposing perspective to the person one behind/on task. At least that was my experience watching this the first time (and a main reason I consider it such a perfect work as intelligent and spiritual). I agree that watching it in one’s own preferred way is usually ideal (and mine would be 1-2 sittings) but I’d be interested to see what would happen if people contributed more collaboratively with equal information like a book club, and I’d be up to follow along one episode at a time.

Regardless of what wins, this should happen.
Ok. I'm not usually one for dictating discussion, but it sounds like it's worth it here. I guess we'll see how many are willing to participate (and, hell, if it even wins), but I think I'll delay the start date a bit to work out a viewing/posting schedule that I'll put up, and maybe set up something to gauge how many are planning to participate.

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Re: therewillbeblus presents: a Member of the Year vote.

#1303 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:08 pm

Yeah I don’t like dictating discussion either I just think if enough people who are new to it are game and are interested to democratically sign on for such a system and agree to a schedule that works, it’ll be worth it. But I think you’re right that it really will depend on if that kind of collective energy exists here, and if not that’s cool too.

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Re: therewillbeblus presents: a Member of the Year vote.

#1304 Post by senseabove » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:09 am

It's sailed ahead now, but it sounds like there would be enough enthusiasm for a coordinated Young Pope watch-through even if it didn't win the vote, which has convinced me I need to watch it anyway... so... good job?

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Re: therewillbeblus presents: a Member of the Year vote.

#1305 Post by John Cope » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:29 am

I continue to be amazed by the adulation/veneration for The Young Pope here, especially as my own experience with it was quite the opposite extreme. I do recognize that there are many who regard it highly, regardless of how incomprehensible I find that. Don't know if I can bring myself to watch The New Pope even though I am usually a completist about such things even with work I don't like much. Still, I feel like I should do it if only in case some late arriving revelation allows for some sort of thorough-going recontextualization and reevaluation. I would try to go into it with as much of an open mind as possible but really there's only so open any of us can ever be (and for me, in this case, it has a lot to do with a general disinclination toward Sorrentino, to put it kindly). I will be very interested in Sausage's responses to the series, however; perhaps he can identify the greatness in it that has so far otherwise entirely eluded me. Really though, I think it would require some monumental accomplishment in exegesis to get me to sit through it again.

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Re: therewillbeblus presents: a Member of the Year vote.

#1306 Post by Mr Sausage » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:30 am

John Cope wrote:Really though, I think it would require some monumental accomplishment in exegesis to get me to sit through it again.
So you're saying we need to get Sloper in on this...

But in all seriousness, this kind of project works against my strengths. I'm not great at capsule reviews or reactions, especially if they're time sensitive. I'm better if I can stew on something for a few weeks or more, or read responses and pick and choose what to respond to. But I'm still game; I'll give it that college try or whatever. I just hope others feel similar and we can do this. I'm actually excited.

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Re: therewillbeblus presents: a Member of the Year vote.

#1307 Post by Mr Sausage » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:31 am

The Young Pope project it is!

This was as hotly contested a vote as we've ever had, I think, going back and forth all weekend. It didn't win, but we should really go to Vox Lux's thread and show it some love.

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domino harvey presents: short films!

#1308 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:20 am

The Young Pope was rather long. As a healthy contrast, domino has chosen ten short films from the collection for you to vote on.

Each member can vote for two short films. The top two will be selected for discussion.

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1309 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:41 am

I already wrote on it in the 50s project but Tous les garçons s'appellent Patrick is delightful for fans of the early playful nouvelle vague period, and is up on YouTube with hardcoded subs. I'm most interested in a discussion on the complex pathos of Hotel Chevalier as separated from its feature film, but there are a lot of good choices here!

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#1310 Post by domino harvey » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm

I don’t necessarily love all of these, but I wanted to pick a wide swath of different kinds of shorts that might bring about interesting discussion. Since it’s out in front, I’m especially interested in how we discuss a Brakhage short running only a couple minutes

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1311 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:32 pm

If I had more faith in that discussion taking place I would have definitely voted for it, but I hope it wins and that happens

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domino harvey presents: short films!

#1312 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:03 pm

One of the difficulties of something abstract to the point of being non-representational like the Brakhage is how difficult it is to talk about, to even find a language in which to talk about it. I remember feeling that most acutely when reading Fred Camper’s liner notes for the DVD release. They were both admirable and superfluous, like trying to turn a catalogue of your sensations during your last meal into an interpretive essay.

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1313 Post by swo17 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:19 pm

I have the entire film saved in a series of 1,795 separate image files, which I am prepared to share if Black Ice wins

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1314 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:19 pm

swo17 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:19 pm
I have the entire film saved in a series of 1,795 separate image files, which I am prepared to share if Black Ice wins
Does each image come with a swo commentary? If so, I'll change my vote

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1315 Post by domino harvey » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:20 pm

I am certain there are a lot of sites online that similarly offer frame by frame screencaps for at least some of Hotel Chevalier

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1316 Post by swo17 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:28 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:19 pm
swo17 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:19 pm
I have the entire film saved in a series of 1,795 separate image files, which I am prepared to share if Black Ice wins
Does each image come with a swo commentary? If so, I'll change my vote
Yes, with such trenchant insights as "vlcsnap-377353.png" and "vlcsnap-377360.png"

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1317 Post by swo17 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:29 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:20 pm
I am certain there are a lot of sites online that similarly offer frame by frame screencaps for at least some of Hotel Chevalier
I refuse to look at any clothing that hypocrite wears

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1318 Post by WmS » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:00 pm

I suggest going through the Brak frame-by-frame and interpreting each one using art-historical frippery.

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Re: domino harvey presents: short films!

#1319 Post by WmS » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:08 pm

Wow, the joke was made better while I was typing. I'll see myself out.

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Vote for now, today!

#1320 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:40 am

Five films. Random. Instructions. Words.

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Re: Vote for now, today!

#1321 Post by domino harvey » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:23 pm

These are indeed some random ass movies

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Re: Vote for now, today!

#1322 Post by swo17 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:28 pm

I trained my random title generator well

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Re: Vote for now, today!

#1323 Post by Noiretirc » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:25 pm

A) What is this thread?

B) How much would Mr Sausage berate me if I made this thread?

C) I love the new Billie Eilish Bond song.

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Another day, another vote.

#1324 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:31 am

Another random grab bag from the collection courtesy of swo17's mysterious "random number generator".

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Let's get sick with Soderbergh!

#1325 Post by Mr Sausage » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:18 am

In accord with our current situation, let's embrace disease with one of our best living filmmakers.

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