Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2751 Post by HistoryProf » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:03 pm

Man i love Donald Fagan. I love it when they ask brilliant people you wouldn't normally expect to see asked about what movies they love.

His list also leads me to wonder again about whether Day of Wrath will ever see a blu release, never mind what the hell is taking Joan of Arc so long.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2752 Post by Adam » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:39 pm

I hope that they will include in some way the alternate, or original Swedish opening to Persona, which includes an erect penis in the opening credit montage. American montage is different but also good, so would like to see both on there. The then new print from the Swedish Archives that toured several years ago was that uncensored version, and the print was utterly exquisite.

Oh, and Persona is my favorite film ever, so I'm really happy with the possibility of a good new Criterion Blu-Ray.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2753 Post by Feego » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:21 pm

Adam wrote:I hope that they will include in some way the alternate, or original Swedish opening to Persona, which includes an erect penis in the opening credit montage. American montage is different but also good, so would like to see both on there. The then new print from the Swedish Archives that toured several years ago was that uncensored version, and the print was utterly exquisite.

Oh, and Persona is my favorite film ever, so I'm really happy with the possibility of a good new Criterion Blu-Ray.
The MGM disc already had the uncensored opening.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2754 Post by BillWatkins » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:16 pm

I watched Persona 2 weeks ago on Criterion's Hulu channel and the erect penis was in the montage.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2755 Post by feckless boy » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:53 am

Adam wrote:erect penis
Feego wrote:uncensored
BillWatkins wrote:erect penis
These last three posts made me proud both as a Swede and as a forum member. Thank you!

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2756 Post by Mathew2468 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:20 am

That's the film, not any 'director's cut' or anything. TCM showed it.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2757 Post by fdm » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:11 pm

feckless boy wrote:
Adam wrote:erect penis
Feego wrote:uncensored
BillWatkins wrote:erect penis
These last three posts made me proud both as a Swede and as a forum member. Thank you!
You Swedes are totally awesome.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2758 Post by Bryant Frazer » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:02 pm

That's the film, not any 'director's cut' or anything. TCM showed it.
I don't think that version of the film was widely seen in the U.S. until fairly recently. My old VHS tape was definitely censored, along with the 16mm prints I saw in film school and (I'm pretty sure) the original MGM laserdisc. When did the MGM DVD come out, 2001 or something? I think that was the first time that version was released in the U.S.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2759 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:55 pm

I posted this on the old version of this forum. It was soon after the MGM DVD release, when I met MGM's archivist (who was actively involved with the DVD) at a screening of PERSONA at Block Cinema in Evanston. He explained that the penis shot was censored for U.S. prints, and that he restored it for the re-release. (In conjunction with the new DVD reissues, they struck new prints of all the Bergman films MGM distributed and sent them on a festival/repertory house tour.) Also talked about getting the right translation for the subtitles, which were also watered down for American consumption for many years. He asked something like four people to translate the 'orgy' story, and he basically went with the boldest (i.e. dirtiest) one as he got the impression the other three translators were a bit too genteel to put something down that captured the language with that much accuracy.

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#2760 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:44 pm

HistoryProf wrote:Man i love Donald Fagan. I love it when they ask brilliant people you wouldn't normally expect to see asked about what movies they love.
I haven't read it yet, but his book is all about movies and music he grew up with.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2761 Post by Bando » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:03 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
HistoryProf wrote:Man i love Donald Fagan. I love it when they ask brilliant people you wouldn't normally expect to see asked about what movies they love.
I haven't read it yet, but his book is all about movies and music he grew up with.
Read in Rolling Stone he pretty much skips directly from the late 60s to his latest Dukes of September tour diary in about two pages. :lol: This isn't the Keith Richards autobiography for the jazzy hipster crowd, unfortunately.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2762 Post by zedz » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Dog in football drag. No idea.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2763 Post by antnield » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:36 pm

The pooch is dressed up like Harold Lloyd in The Freshman, but can't figure where the dog part of the clue comes in.

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#2764 Post by jindianajonz » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:37 pm


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#2765 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Makes sense.
The new restoration is playing at the Film Forum next week.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2766 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:43 pm

antnield wrote:The pooch is dressed up like Harold Lloyd in The Freshman, but can't figure where the dog part of the clue comes in.

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Maybe because he is coming on to her like a dog in heat.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2767 Post by Dragoon En Regalia » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:45 pm

It's more like the dog gets kicked around, which approximates Lloyd's role in the film.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2768 Post by Red Screamer » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:53 pm

Or maybe an upgrade of White Dog?

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2769 Post by swo17 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:55 pm

Could someone post the picture? For some reason, my newsletter is blank.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2770 Post by Jeff » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:56 pm

swo17 wrote:Could someone post the picture? For some reason, my newsletter is blank.
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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2771 Post by bamwc2 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:56 pm

I managed to get this one right away. It might be my first correct answer since Repo Man. I'm also flummoxed by the dog. In the early days of the clues, they always used an animal from an unrelated film. Maybe they did that here as well.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2772 Post by Tom Hagen » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:57 pm

Yale's athletic mascot is the Bulldog.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2773 Post by domino harvey » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:02 pm

I think it confirms we won't be getting the Sin of Harold Diddlebock since they'd use a lion here otherwise

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2774 Post by Tom Hagen » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:03 pm

Ah when all else fails, check Wikipedia:
Pete the Pup makes a cameo in the movie.

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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)

#2775 Post by swo17 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:04 pm

domino harvey wrote:I think it confirms we won't be getting the Sin of Harold Diddlebock since they'd use a lion here otherwise
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