2017 Criterion Forum Awards
- rossen
- Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:23 pm
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
BEST RELEASES:
1. World Cinema Project Vol. 2
2. The Breaking Point
3. The Before Trilogy
4. Black Girl
5. Othello
BEST BOXED SET: World Cinema Project Vol. 2
BEST MODERN FILM: Certain Women
BEST COMMENTARY: Ghost World
BEST "BONUS" FILM: The Front Page
BEST REISSUE: Good Morning
BEST UPGRADE: Jeanne Dielman
BEST BOOKLET: Rebecca
BEST COVER: They Live By Night
WORST COVER: Election
BEST PACKAGING: Marseille Trilogy
BEST DISCOVERY: The Breaking Point
MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE: David Lynch: The Art Life
MOST FLAWED RELEASE: War Trilogy
MEMBER OF THE YEAR: Matrixschmatrix
RICHARD CRANIUM AWARD: FilmStruckFan
Non Criterion:
Four Film Noir Classics (Arrow)
Taisho Trilogy (Arrow)
Housekeeping (Indicator)
The Old Dark House (Cohen)
Letter from an Unknown Woman (Olive)
1. World Cinema Project Vol. 2
2. The Breaking Point
3. The Before Trilogy
4. Black Girl
5. Othello
BEST BOXED SET: World Cinema Project Vol. 2
BEST MODERN FILM: Certain Women
BEST COMMENTARY: Ghost World
BEST "BONUS" FILM: The Front Page
BEST REISSUE: Good Morning
BEST UPGRADE: Jeanne Dielman
BEST BOOKLET: Rebecca
BEST COVER: They Live By Night
WORST COVER: Election
BEST PACKAGING: Marseille Trilogy
BEST DISCOVERY: The Breaking Point
MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE: David Lynch: The Art Life
MOST FLAWED RELEASE: War Trilogy
MEMBER OF THE YEAR: Matrixschmatrix
RICHARD CRANIUM AWARD: FilmStruckFan
Non Criterion:
Four Film Noir Classics (Arrow)
Taisho Trilogy (Arrow)
Housekeeping (Indicator)
The Old Dark House (Cohen)
Letter from an Unknown Woman (Olive)
- jwd5275
- Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:26 pm
- Location: SF, CA
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
BEST RELEASE
Stalker
Tampopo
Ghost World
Martin Scorsese’s World Cinema Project Vol 2
Black Girl
BEST BOXED SET
Martin Scorsese’s World Cinema Project Vol 2
BEST COMMENTARY
Multiple Maniacs
BEST "BONUS" FILM
Borom sarret
BEST BOOKLET
Ghost World
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA
Fluid Style on The Breaking Point
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BEST REISSUE
Good Morning
BEST UPGRADE
Ugetsu
BEST COVER
Good Morning
WORST COVER
Election
BEST PACKAGING
Ghost World
BEST DISCOVERY
Marseilles Trilogy
MEMBER OF THE YEAR
Matrixschmatrix
RICHARD CRANIUM AWARD
FilmStruckFan
Stalker
Tampopo
Ghost World
Martin Scorsese’s World Cinema Project Vol 2
Black Girl
BEST BOXED SET
Martin Scorsese’s World Cinema Project Vol 2
BEST COMMENTARY
Multiple Maniacs
BEST "BONUS" FILM
Borom sarret
BEST BOOKLET
Ghost World
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA
Fluid Style on The Breaking Point
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BEST REISSUE
Good Morning
BEST UPGRADE
Ugetsu
BEST COVER
Good Morning
WORST COVER
Election
BEST PACKAGING
Ghost World
BEST DISCOVERY
Marseilles Trilogy
MEMBER OF THE YEAR
Matrixschmatrix
RICHARD CRANIUM AWARD
FilmStruckFan
- ng4996
- the Wizard of Ozu
- Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 11:01 pm
- Location: Missoula, MT
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
BEST RELEASE:
1. Barry Lyndon
2. Blow-Up
3. Good Morning
4. Tampopo
5. The Piano Teacher
(I was hoping to get around to picking up Othello, it almost certainly would've made my list, but alas I did not have the time this year.)
BEST BOXED SET: Martin Scorsese’s World Cinema Project Vol 2
BEST MODERN FILM: Personal Shopper
BEST COMMENTARY: Multiple Maniacs
BEST "BONUS" FILM: I Was Born, But...
BEST BOOKLET: Blow-Up
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA: Achieving Perfection - Barry Lyndon
BEST REISSUE: Good Morning
BEST UPGRADE: Ugetsu
BEST COVER: Good Morning
WORST COVER: Election
BEST PACKAGING: Blow-Up
BEST DISCOVERY: Good Morning (Ozu is my favorite director, and I had never seen this one. I'd been praying for an upgrade and they really delivered, maybe my favorite presentation in the collection all year.)
MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE: David Lynch: The Art Life
MOST FLAWED RELEASE: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
1. Barry Lyndon
2. Blow-Up
3. Good Morning
4. Tampopo
5. The Piano Teacher
(I was hoping to get around to picking up Othello, it almost certainly would've made my list, but alas I did not have the time this year.)
BEST BOXED SET: Martin Scorsese’s World Cinema Project Vol 2
BEST MODERN FILM: Personal Shopper
BEST COMMENTARY: Multiple Maniacs
BEST "BONUS" FILM: I Was Born, But...
BEST BOOKLET: Blow-Up
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA: Achieving Perfection - Barry Lyndon
BEST REISSUE: Good Morning
BEST UPGRADE: Ugetsu
BEST COVER: Good Morning
WORST COVER: Election
BEST PACKAGING: Blow-Up
BEST DISCOVERY: Good Morning (Ozu is my favorite director, and I had never seen this one. I'd been praying for an upgrade and they really delivered, maybe my favorite presentation in the collection all year.)
MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE: David Lynch: The Art Life
MOST FLAWED RELEASE: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
- Jean-Luc Garbo
- Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:55 am
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Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
BEST RELEASE
1. Black Girl
2. The Marseilles Trilogy
3. Othello
4. Barry Lyndon
5. Ghost World
BEST BOXED SET
The Marseilles Trilogy
BEST MODERN FILM
The Lure
BEST BOOKLET
Ghost World
BEST COMMENTARY
Ghost World
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA
New interview with Ayanna Thompson - Othello
BEST "BONUS" FILM
Filming "Othello"
BEST REISSUE
Good Morning
BEST COVER
Blow-Up
WORST COVER
Stalker
BEST PACKAGING
The Marseilles Trilogy
BEST DISCOVERY
Desert Hearts
MOST FLAWED RELEASE
Personal Shopper
1. Black Girl
2. The Marseilles Trilogy
3. Othello
4. Barry Lyndon
5. Ghost World
BEST BOXED SET
The Marseilles Trilogy
BEST MODERN FILM
The Lure
BEST BOOKLET
Ghost World
BEST COMMENTARY
Ghost World
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA
New interview with Ayanna Thompson - Othello
BEST "BONUS" FILM
Filming "Othello"
BEST REISSUE
Good Morning
BEST COVER
Blow-Up
WORST COVER
Stalker
BEST PACKAGING
The Marseilles Trilogy
BEST DISCOVERY
Desert Hearts
MOST FLAWED RELEASE
Personal Shopper
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
Deadline should have been this morning but I forgot, so you all have til tomorrow morning when I wake up
- zedz
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:24 pm
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
I subbed in for domino to tabulate these, so here you go:
BEST RELEASE:
1. Barry Lyndon
2. Stalker
3. Othello
4. World Cinema Project Vol. 2
5. Blow Up
6. Tampopo
7. Marseille Trilogy
8. His Girl Friday
9. The Breaking Point
10. 100 Years of Olympic Films
BEST BOXED SET: World Cinema Project Vol. 2
BEST MODERN FILM: A tie between Certain Women and Personal Shopper
BEST COMMENTARY: Multiple Maniacs (in a landslide)
BEST "BONUS" FILM: Filming “Othello” (Othello)
BEST BOOKLET: Blow Up
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA: Achieving Perfection (Barry Lyndon)
BEST REISSUE: Good Morning (beating Rebecca by a single vote)
BEST UPGRADE: A tie between Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles and Ugetsu
BEST COVER: They Live By Night
WORST COVER: Election (by a landslide)
BEST PACKAGING: Blow Up
BEST DISCOVERY: The Breaking Point
MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (another landslide, with nearly three times the votes of the runner-up, the other David Lynch film)
MOST FLAWED RELEASE: Stalker (though that didn’t stop it being your number two pick for the year).
BEST THREAD: State of the Forum
MEMBER OF THE YEAR: Matrixschmatrix
RICHARD CRANIUM AWARD: FilmStruckFan (a.k.a. Kevyip)
BEST RELEASE:
1. Barry Lyndon
2. Stalker
3. Othello
4. World Cinema Project Vol. 2
5. Blow Up
6. Tampopo
7. Marseille Trilogy
8. His Girl Friday
9. The Breaking Point
10. 100 Years of Olympic Films
BEST BOXED SET: World Cinema Project Vol. 2
BEST MODERN FILM: A tie between Certain Women and Personal Shopper
BEST COMMENTARY: Multiple Maniacs (in a landslide)
BEST "BONUS" FILM: Filming “Othello” (Othello)
BEST BOOKLET: Blow Up
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA: Achieving Perfection (Barry Lyndon)
BEST REISSUE: Good Morning (beating Rebecca by a single vote)
BEST UPGRADE: A tie between Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles and Ugetsu
BEST COVER: They Live By Night
WORST COVER: Election (by a landslide)
BEST PACKAGING: Blow Up
BEST DISCOVERY: The Breaking Point
MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (another landslide, with nearly three times the votes of the runner-up, the other David Lynch film)
MOST FLAWED RELEASE: Stalker (though that didn’t stop it being your number two pick for the year).
BEST THREAD: State of the Forum
MEMBER OF THE YEAR: Matrixschmatrix
RICHARD CRANIUM AWARD: FilmStruckFan (a.k.a. Kevyip)
- swo17
- Bloodthirsty Butcher
- Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:25 am
- Location: SLC, UT
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
Thanks zedz, and a well earned congrats to matrixschmatrix!
- MichaelB
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Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
And an equally well-earned Worst Cover. I normally don’t care about artwork, but that one’s actively off-putting. Does “picking and flicking” have the same connotation outside the UK? I’m guessing not, but when the yellow icing on the cupcake bears at least a passing resemblance to nasal mucus it’s an association that’s pretty much impossible for me to ignore, however involuntarily.
- aox
- Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:02 pm
- Location: nYc
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
Why is Stalker the most flawed release? I assume the lack of contextual extras?MOST FLAWED RELEASE: Stalker (though that didn’t stop it being your number two pick for the year).
- tenia
- Ask Me About My Bassoon
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Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
When explicited on the topic here by people considering it a flawed release, the amount of extras was indeed a recurring complaint.
- MichaelB
- Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:20 pm
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Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
I suspect there's a story behind that.
For instance, one really obvious extra would have been 2009 feature-length documentary Rerberg and Tarkovsky: The Reverse Side of Stalker, which is so obvious (and I know for a fact that at least one member of the Criterion team was aware of its existence) that I suspect there's a reason for its omission.
It could of course be down to money or even lack of availability of US/UK rights (since Criterion would need to clear both), but my hypothesis is that since the film paints a decidedly unflattering portrait of Tarkovsky and an exceptionally unflattering portrait of his wife, the involvement of their son in the Criterion release nixed that idea from the outset.
But you can watch it here (with English subtitles).
For instance, one really obvious extra would have been 2009 feature-length documentary Rerberg and Tarkovsky: The Reverse Side of Stalker, which is so obvious (and I know for a fact that at least one member of the Criterion team was aware of its existence) that I suspect there's a reason for its omission.
It could of course be down to money or even lack of availability of US/UK rights (since Criterion would need to clear both), but my hypothesis is that since the film paints a decidedly unflattering portrait of Tarkovsky and an exceptionally unflattering portrait of his wife, the involvement of their son in the Criterion release nixed that idea from the outset.
But you can watch it here (with English subtitles).
- aox
- Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:02 pm
- Location: nYc
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
MichaelB wrote: But you can watch it here (with English subtitles).
Well, there goes my morning. Thanks
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Nostalghia.com have a list of significant documentaries on Tarkovsky, though I suspect materials for those that are Stalker-specific may have been hard or impossible to find. Stalker's Dreams, which focuses on actor Aleksandr Kaidanovsky, is another notable omission though.
- zedz
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:24 pm
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
I was surprised by that as well, as I was tabulating the votes, since it was so well liked in general, but it won 'most flawed' by more than two to one over any other title, where the other contenders had clearer reasons for their inclusion:aox wrote:Why is Stalker the most flawed release? I assume the lack of contextual extras?MOST FLAWED RELEASE: Stalker (though that didn’t stop it being your number two pick for the year).
Tree of Wooden Clogs - botched colour timing in the face of a superior rival release
War Trilogy / Germany Year Zero - absence of newer restoration
Le Samourai - use of old master (though it's better than the newer, botched one)
David Lynch: the Art Life - extra masquerading as a mainline title, while there's an actual Lynch film released that really could have used some fresh extras.
I can see the argument for Stalker, though, as it surely wouldn't have been hard for Criterion to commission additional scholarly extras if they couldn't secure existing docs. Still, you have to be grateful for their restoration (which I suspect hoovered up a lot of the budget for this release).
- colinr0380
- Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:30 pm
- Location: Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire, UK
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
Another hearty congratulations to matrixschmatrix, whose posts are always entertaining to read, and has often been at the centre of some of the most interesting discussions!
- Saturnome
- Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:22 pm
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
In fact a big chunk of the essay in the booklet (a whole paragraph plus a few more lines) is about this documentary. You can only wonder why it isn't included, and the release feel flawed because of it.MichaelB wrote:For instance, one really obvious extra would have been 2009 feature-length documentary Rerberg and Tarkovsky: The Reverse Side of Stalker, which is so obvious (and I know for a fact that at least one member of the Criterion team was aware of its existence) that I suspect there's a reason for its omission.
- soundchaser
- Leave Her to Beaver
- Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:32 am
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
I really like Geoff Dyer’s book, but the interview with him added absolutely nothing to it. Surely he’s had a few more insights in the intervening years, especially since his slant is already so personal?
- Morbii
- Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:38 am
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
I guess I'm one of the few (or only one?) that didn't really mind the Election cover. I thought the Woman of the Year cover was absolutely dreadful, and felt it would win no contest, but I think I was the only one to vote for it.
As one of the people that voted stalker for best release and most flawed release, it just came down to features. In my view it's probably the greatest film ever made, so maybe there'd have always been something to nitpick about.
I'm happy to see that of my top 5, 4 of them are in the forum's top 5 too. Only one (Black Girl, which didn't even make the top 10) wasn't.
As one of the people that voted stalker for best release and most flawed release, it just came down to features. In my view it's probably the greatest film ever made, so maybe there'd have always been something to nitpick about.
I'm happy to see that of my top 5, 4 of them are in the forum's top 5 too. Only one (Black Girl, which didn't even make the top 10) wasn't.
- zedz
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:24 pm
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
As I recall, Black Girl ended up at number 11 or 12, with quite a lot of support but few top placings.
- aox
- Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:02 pm
- Location: nYc
Re: 2017 Criterion Forum Awards
This is where I'm at. I was just happy to have a beautiful transfer.Morbii wrote:As one of the people that voted stalker for best release and most flawed release, it just came down to features. In my view it's probably the greatest film ever made, so maybe there'd have always been something to nitpick about.