184, 517-518 by Brakhage: An Anthology (Volumes One and Two)

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#177 Post by jsteffe » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:13 pm

oldsheperd wrote:Anyone re-examine what are good musical choices to accompany the films with no soundtrack? I haven't tried anything as of yet but I imagine some sort of white noise ala Cage, Stockhausen? perhaps a group like Can? I thought about Throbbing Gristle but I don't have D.O.A. or 2nd Annual Report just 20 Great Jazz Funk Whatever it is. I imagine a group like the Japanese band Ghost would work as well.
I think Metal Machine Music could work too but then I'd have to buy Metal Machine Music which doesn't make much sense to me.
I humbly suggest Nurse With Wound, especially earlier albums like "Soliloquy for Lilith" or "Spiral Insana."

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#178 Post by oldsheperd » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:28 pm

I would try Nurse with Wound or Destroy All Monsters if they can be found for a decent price.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#179 Post by Noiretirc » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:51 am

Merzbow. The End.

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#180 Post by MyNameCriterionForum » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:34 am

Noiretirc wrote:Merzbow. The End.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#181 Post by goner » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:23 am

How about the group Text of Light? Kind of Spacy and Kraut-y. Also named after a Brakhage film.

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#182 Post by mteller » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:05 pm

I once tried to watch "23rd Psalm Branch" while listening to The Orb's Pomme Fritz album. It didn't really gel, that album is too mellow for that film. I think the films work better as silents anyway.

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#183 Post by oldsheperd » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:35 pm

I was thinking maybe Chrome could work.


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#185 Post by Noiretirc » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:39 am

goner wrote:How about the group Text of Light? Kind of Spacy and Kraut-y. Also named after a Brakhage film.
Yes! And Sonic Youth loves them too.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#186 Post by oldsheperd » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:42 am

"Boat Woman Song" off of Canaxis by Holger Czukay

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#187 Post by Adam » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:48 am

goner wrote:How about the group Text of Light? Kind of Spacy and Kraut-y. Also named after a Brakhage film.
And when they perform, it is live to Brakhage films.
Filmforum brought them to Los Angeles. I thought their music was great, and the films were great, but the music overpowered/didn't work well enough with the films.

I think silent Brakhage films should be played without sound. It was a nice experiment with Text of Light, and also one that showed why the films work better with no soundtrack.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#188 Post by knives » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:19 pm

Am I being pedantic for becoming annoyed at first that the blu actually does split Vol 1&2.

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#189 Post by Adam » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:24 pm

knives wrote:Am I being pedantic for becoming annoyed at first that the blu actually does split Vol 1&2.
Yes. :)

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#190 Post by knives » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:52 pm

I should mention though that the two films in the set I've watched are fascinating and I don't think I'll have the repetition problems I did with the Keen set here. Things are going a lot slower.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#191 Post by med » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:04 pm

knives wrote:Am I being pedantic for becoming annoyed at first that the blu actually does split Vol 1&2.
Two things:

1) I don't think "pedantic" is the word you want here.

2) Are you really complaining that nearly 12 hours worth of material is spread across two discs instead of crammed into one?

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#192 Post by knives » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:18 pm

That's not what I was complaining about. They have two separate digis for vol. 1 and vol. 2. I don't see why they couldn't have put it all on one extra fold digi. Movies are great though. Dog Star Man felt like it was running in reverse.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#193 Post by aox » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:34 am

So, with the B&N sale, I have started looking at this set. But, a quick question: on the BD discs, do they feature a "play-all" function between all of the short films so they will essentially stream? Kind of like TV episode discs.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#194 Post by CSM126 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:49 am

Yes, although the stream will be interrupted for a "graphic content" warning before The Act of Seeing... I believe you have to click to acknowledge it (and then the stream keeps going).

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#195 Post by Tom Hagen » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:45 am

Yes, there is a play all function. On volume 2, there is also a cool option to view designated groups of shorts as a manageable "program."

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#196 Post by aox » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:18 am

sweet deal.

I think I might blind buy this after work. I have no idea what to expect.

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#197 Post by SternDiet » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:22 am

aox wrote:I have no idea what to expect.
Something that may change your life forever.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#198 Post by aox » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:25 am

To be honest, I am feeling uninspired in my own short film-making. Looking for some inspiration. :D

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#199 Post by knives » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:15 pm

His films are somewhere between Kenneth Anger and Jeff Keen if that makes sense to you. It's a lot of slow edited abstracts that manage to tell oddly personal stories. I'm sure youtube has a few (if not the best) if you want to test them out. It's a very worthwhile purchase.

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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2

#200 Post by SternDiet » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:52 pm

knives wrote:His films are somewhere between Kenneth Anger and Jeff Keen if that makes sense to you. It's a lot of slow edited abstracts that manage to tell oddly personal stories. I'm sure youtube has a few (if not the best) if you want to test them out. It's a very worthwhile purchase.
Slow edited? You must be joking!

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